(1982, lp, usa, rhino records)
(1982, lp, ger, line records)

the grandmothers

lookin' up granny's dress (3)
    - feat. frank zappa, ray collins, bunk & buzz gardner, andy cahan, jc black, jim sherwood, elliot ingber, don preston, walt & tom fowler

1982 lp usa rhino records  rnlp 804

re-releases
    (1982, lp, ger, line records 6 25048 ap)

tracks 1 - 9 recorded live in denmark, 1980
tracks 1 - 9: produced by don preston (and walt + tom fowler)

don preston: keyboards, vocals  1-9
jimmy carl black: drums, vocals  1-9, 13
tom fowler: bass, violin  1-9
walt fowler: keyboards, trumpet, vocals  1-9
bunk gardner: tenor sax  1-9, 13, 14, 15
(tony duran was also part of the band, but is not 'audible' on this recording)
ray collins: vocals  10, 13
frank zappa: drums  10
ronnie williams: guitar 10
elliot ingber: guitar 11
ira ingber: guitar, bass 11
don u. matic: drums 11
buzz gardner: trumpet, flugel 12, 15
jimmy mckenna: trombone 12
john lasonio: bass 12
david trent: drums, percussion 12
danny newmark: electric piano 12
sid the kid: tenor sax 12
tjay cantrelli: horns 13
denny walley: guitar 13
tom leavy: bass 13, 15
andy cahan: drums, keyboards, guitar  13, 14, 15
elmer and fred = bunk gardner and andy cahan, plus dusty wakeman
dusty wakeman: bass 14
motorhead sherwood: vocals, sax, guitar, 15
steel finger: electric guitar 15
tom brown: drums 15
frank scoobie sorkin: soprano sax 15

compilation produced by andy cahan

  1. uncle meat (frank zappa)
  2. mother people (frank zappa)
  3. medulla oblongata
  4. peaches en regalia  (frank zappa)
  5. silicone hump 
  6. oh no  (frank zappa)
  7. eric dolphy memorial  (frank zappa)
  8. acid rain pelting the underground
  9. go cry on somebody else's shoulder (frank zappa)
  10. deseri (ray collins) - recorded in 1962
  11. gingerwall (elliot ingber)
  12. my love has gone  (buzz gardner)
  13. mayonnaise mountain (ray collins)
  14. elmer and fred: dona
  15. going to idaho